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For years I've used a rock chucker single stage reloading press. Now I have an interest in upgrading to a turret press. What experience has this forum had with turret presses and what do you recommend? The second part of my question is: I load both 223 rem and 223 rem AI, Can I use the same neck sizer die for both? I respect the advise on this forum and really would like your input before I purchase a turret press and a 223 rem neck die.

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I just noticed this posting and I am interested in hearing from those in the know on reloading equipment.
I am looking to get into reloading and one of the equipment options I have looked at is the turret press - I see that Lyman and RCBS offer the turret press in their kits. Or would I be better to stick with a single stage? I will strictly be reloading for rifle ammo .

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For years I've used a rock chucker single stage reloading press. Now I have an interest in upgrading to a turret press. What experience has this forum had with turret presses and what do you recommend? The second part of my question is: I load both 223 rem and 223 rem AI, Can I use the same neck sizer die for both? I respect the advise on this forum and really would like your input before I purchase a turret press and a 223 rem neck die.



Now, I'm not speaking from experience, but I believe you can use a 223 neck sizer for the 223 AI.  Reason I say this is that my buddy shoots a .243AI and he neck sizes with just a .243 neck sizer.

 



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Guys one thing to keep in mine when using a turret presses your not going to get the same loads each time you pull the handle with a turret press like you would with a Rock Chucker press.
I don't care what anyone will tell you about that turret press they don't drop the same powder each time.


Reloading one at a time is far better than 3 or 4 at a time just rememeber. biggrin



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Thanks Rick.
I kinda wondered if a turret style press would be as consistent as a single stage model.  "Keep it simple" is a good approach to most things I guess.
Appreciate your advice - good shooting/hunting!


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There is a differents between a turret press and a progressive press.A turret press also have changeable turrets which can be set up for different calibers but can be used like a single stage.Some people don't like Lee products I do and have used their turret press for years and if I get another press it would be their 4-hole classic cast iron press.I have different turret set up for all my calibers and use a Lymans 1200 powder system for the powder.I can change from one caliber to a different one in a minute and be ready to load.I will never be with out one.

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I have a Redding T-7 turret press, it's not a progressive but a single stage. The advantage is you can have up to 7 dies installed at once. It's great for if you want to use a small base die and a neck sizer on the same piece of brass without having to change your whole set up, just run it through one die, index and run it through the other. I have mine set up on base sizes. 223 and 204 on one turret 22-250 and 6BR on the other.


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What brand of dies do you use with the Lee reloader?
One person told me that you might get some "play" with a turret press compared to a single stage, which is why I have shied away.  But now I'm wondering.

Lee products are considerably less expensive than others (RCBS, Lyman, etc.) but if the quality is there and the end result is comparable they are definitely worth a closer look.


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I use my single stage most of the time for my bigger guns, but I have a progressive I use for the 17 fireball and 223. I just index it manually. Nice to keep all the dies set up and ready at once. Also my single is a Lee Breach lock which speeds up die changes greatly. Have used Lee stuff since I started and get great accuracy. And tech has been very good to me with questions or repairs at no charge. {new press, misc parts}
P.S. I shoot out to 500 meters.

-- Edited by larryy at 21:25, 2008-10-29

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You can use any standard die in Lee's presses ,I use a lot of Lee dies also RCBS,Hornady,Forster and Redding.Like any press if you pay attention to the details you can get very good accuracy.I have used Lee products for years and I can't think of any that have failed me.

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I have a buddy that has a lee Load Master press and I can say I have never seen anything more junker than that press. Every time he reloads with it some thing brakes on it and Lee don't back there stuff like RCBS will.
You brake some thing that has the Lee name on it and you pay ...... you brake some thing that has the RCBS name on it ther will replace it for free.

I have to say it like buying a new scope's when your buying reloading tools
You get what you pay for! biggrin



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A lot of input, however I see some are mistaking a turret press for a progressive. I decided to purchase a T-7 redding turret. I like the idea to be able to set up dies on the turret and leave them. swapping out turrets when I wish to change calibers. I still measure each and every powder charge.The T-7 is a little more costly than the others but it is built like a tank and I do believe "you get what you pay for!" expecting many years of service.

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i also use a turret, and you have to put it in its proper perspective. it is a single stage that you dont have to continually set up dies in, thats it. they are not progressive presses.


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Just like you, I had the same curiosity; started with the Rock Chucker and wondered about the progressive presses.  I made the mistake of going for the inexpensive kind and got a Lee.

It's OK for handgun and the smaller rifle rounds and the convenience of having a different plate for each caliber is great but, the Lee WOULD NOT full length resize brass for my .22-250!  NO way I could make it work.  Stuck it in the RCBS and it was smooth as could be.

Could be I did not have the Lee set up properly but it does not cam over center like the RCBS and would not do the job.

I don't trust the auto powder dispensing thing either and still use the RCBS for that.  Also, don't care for the auto indexing and use manual indexing instead since I do everything in single stages or one step at a time.

So my advice is to get the better, more costly brand and you'll really like the turret press.


Oh yeah, I do have this Lee turret press I would make ya a good deal on!

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-- Edited by Marshall at 23:36, 2008-10-30

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I use a Redding T-7 turret press for loading the calibers that i don"t shoot lots of; ie. 45-70, 255-3000, and a host of others. I now have 4 tool heads for the T-7. Very handy as you don't have to adjust dies when changing caliibers, just shell holders. For my 223 varmint ammo I have used one of my Dillon 550 progressive machines for more years and rounds than I care to think about. The powder measure throws 26 grains of Win. 748 to +/-.1gr. and does it years after year. See article in issue #67. Bench rest quality ammo? Not hardly! But it kills the dogs DRT.

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You might want to read the rather long writeup I made under progressive presses above.  I did not mention that I have 3 Lyman Spar T presses and used them for years before I bought  a Dillion 550 and also a Forester Co Axial press.  The reason I bought 3 of these Lyman presses was that I thought it would be wonderful to have my dies set up and not have to be adjusted again.  Also, you could rotate the heads and not have to take a cartridge out of the press as often as with something like a Rock Chucker. This worked fine for small amounts of ammo for pistols but is no in anyway as convenient and fast to use as a Dillon progressive press. 

I simply have found that Forester Co Axial press is a much more practical solution for me when I want to conveniently and quickly switch the die I am using.  All the parts and pieces for any given caliber will slide right into the press and when you are done, they will fit nicely back in your original die box.  You can change out a die in the Co Axial press about as fast as you can rotate a rotary press. 

Good Luck

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